Implement Hydraulic Cylinder Movement May Be Erratic On Certain 365B L Excavators Caterpillar


Implement Hydraulic Cylinder Movement May Be Erratic On Certain 365B L Excavators

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Implement Hydraulic Cylinder Movement May Be Erratic On Certain 365B L Excavators

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TECHNICAL INFORMATION BULLETIN

AUGUST 01, 2001

EXCAVATORS

365B L (9PZ, 9TZ, AGD) EXCAVATORS

 

Component Code(s) 5051

SUBJECT: IMPLEMENT HYDRAULIC CYLINDER MOVEMENT MAY BE ERRATIC ON
CERTAIN 365B L EXCAVATORS

PROBLEM:

In a stalled condition, while performing multiple functions (bucket and stick or stick and boom functions); when one of the implement control levers is returned from the stall condition and passes through into the neutral position, the control of that implement may become erratic. The intensity of the symptom varies as the stroke of the cylinder changes. The highest intensity occurs at the mid-stroke of the cylinder. Adjustment of the Gain/Response Control may not eliminate the erratic cylinder movement.

SOLUTION:

If a machine exhibits erratic implement hydraulic cylinder movement, calibrate all implement control system pressures and all valve pressure settings. Use the Vehicle Information Display System (VIDS) menu to confirm that the settings are correct. After confirmation that the pressures are set correctly, perform the following procedure:

  1. Locate the three plugs identified in Illustration 1.
  2. Remove the 9S-4191 Plug.

    Note: Work on only one hydraulic circuit at a time. Start with the bucket circuit when multiple circuits are affected.
  3. Remove the 5J-5004 Orifice Plug (1) shown in Illustration 1, Section A. The plug has an orifice of 2.4 mm (0.094 in).
  4. Install a new orifice that is one size smaller than the original. Continue installing a plug that is one size smaller, until the erratic movement is eliminated. Typical sizes are listed in the table.

    August 01, 2001
    Component Code(s) 5051
  5. If the erratic implement hydraulic cylinder movement is eliminated in the bucket circuit and the erratic movement in the stick or boom circuit continues, repeat Step 2 through Step 4 on those hydraulic circuits respectively.

Orifice Plugs Available From Parts Department

Thread Size

Part Number

Orifice Size

1/16 in NPTF

4J-9780

1.6 mm (0.062 in)

 

4I-6208

1.4 mm (0.055 in)

 

4T-4207

1.2 mm (0.047 in)

 

Reference: SEPD0282, Service Magazine, November 27, 1995,
Page 5, "Various Size Orifice Plugs Available Through Parts Department".

Note: Orifice sizes that are smaller than the 4J-9780 Orifice Plug 1.6 mm (0.062 in) may be tried. A smaller orifice could result in a slower implement control response time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

August 01, 2001
Component Code(s) 5051

 

 

 

 





Illustration 1. Main Control Valve
B. Stick Control Hydraulic Circuit
C. Boom Control Hydraulic Circuit
D. Bucket Control Hydraulic Circuit

 

 

 

 

August 01, 2001
Component Code(s) 5051

 

Illustration 2. Typical view of Section A-A from Illustration 1.
Location of the orifice plugs in the main control valve.
1. Orifice Plug

 

 

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