3512B and 3516B Engine Supplement for and 784C,, 785C and and 785C HAA Off-Highway Truck/Tractors Caterpillar


Engine and Torque Converter (High Altitude) - Remove

Usage:

785C 5AZ

Removal Procedure

Table 1
Required Tools 
Tool  Part Number  Part Description  Qty 
8S-7640  Stand 
8S-7611 Tube 
8S-7615 Pin 
8S-8048 Saddle 
138-7573  Link Bracket 
C(1)  9U-7489  Lift Stand (100 Ton) 
447-0910 Electric Hydraulic Pump Gp
115 V 
447-0911 Electric Hydraulic Pump Gp
230 V 
4C-6928 Dolly 
OR 
504-9830 Lift Gp (50/60 Hz)(2) 
504-9831 Lift Gp (50/60 Hz)(3) 
108-5453  Nozzle 
(1) Use Tooling (C) or (C1) based on requirements.
(2) Operating Voltage (380V - 500V)
(3) Operating Voltage (180V - 300V)

Start By:

  1. Release the air system pressure.

  2. Remove the radiator.

  3. Remove the hood.

  4. Remove air cleaners.

  5. Install truck body retaining cable.


NOTICE

Care must be taken to ensure that fluids are contained during performance of inspection, maintenance, testing, adjusting, and repair of the product. Be prepared to collect the fluid with suitable containers before opening any compartment or disassembling any component containing fluids.

Refer to Special Publication, PERJ1017, "Dealer Service Tool Catalog" for tools and supplies suitable to collect and contain fluids on Cat® products.

Dispose of all fluids according to local regulations and mandates.


------ WARNING! ------

Removing the engine from the truck with the body of the truck in the Up position will change the balance point of the truck. The shift in the balance point could allow the front of the truck to unexpectedly raise off the ground.

This unexpected movement could cause injury or death.

To stabilize the truck, always install the specified tooling to stabilize the truck before removing the engine and torque converter.


------ WARNING! ------

Personal injury can result from hot coolant, steam and alkali.

At operating temperature, engine coolant is hot and under pressure. The radiator and all lines to heaters or the engine contain hot coolant or steam. Any contact can cause severe burns.

Remove filler cap slowly to relieve pressure only when engine is stopped and radiator cap is cool enough to touch with your bare hand.

Cooling System Conditioner contains alkali. Avoid contact with skin and eyes.


------ WARNING! ------

Personal injury can result from hydraulic oil pressure and hot oil.

Hydraulic oil pressure can remain in the hydraulic system after the engine has been stopped. Serious injury can be caused if this pressure is not released before any service is done on the hydraulic system.

Make sure all of the attachments have been lowered, oil is cool before removing any components or lines. Remove the oil filler cap only when the engine is stopped, and the filler cap is cool enough to touch with your bare hand.


Note: Install caps and plugs on all openings to prevent dirt or debris from entering the system. Cleanliness is an important factor. Before the removal procedure, the exterior of the component should be thoroughly cleaned. This will help to prevent dirt from entering the internal mechanism.



    Illustration 1g00483703

  1. Position Tooling (A) (not shown), or suitable stands under the truck body, as shown.

  2. Drain the oil from the torque converter. The capacity of the torque converter sump is 3.8 L (1 US gal).


    Illustration 2g00572162

  3. Turn ball valve (1) on the fuel tank to the OFF position.


    Illustration 3g00572239

  4. Disconnect hose assembly (2) from the fuel transfer pump.


    Illustration 4g00490207

  5. Remove cover (4). Use Tool (D) (not shown) to drain the hydraulic oil from the hoist, torque converter, and brake system. The capacity of the system is 640 L (169 US gal).Remove cap (3). Use Tool (D) (not shown) to drain the hydraulic oil from the hoist, torque converter, and brake tank. The capacity of the tank is 420 L (111 US gal). Refer to Operation and Maintenance Manual, SEBU7176, "Hoist, Torque Converter and Brake Tank Oil - Change" for the correct procedure.


    Illustration 5g00489528

  6. Disconnect wire harness (5) from the cab assembly.


    Illustration 6g00489534

  7. Loosen clip assembly (6). Disconnect wiring harness (7) at the electrical connections.


    Illustration 7g00489536

  8. Remove four bolts (8) to disconnect the clips and the wire harness from the frame assembly.


    Illustration 8g00489585

  9. Disconnect two wiring harnesses (9) at the electrical connection. Disconnect two tube assemblies (10).


    Illustration 9g00489646

  10. Place identification marks on two hoses (11) and (12) prior to the disconnection for installation purposes. Remove bolt (15) and the clip. Loosen four clamps (13) and (14) to disconnect two hoses (11) and (12).


    Illustration 10g00489657

  11. Remove five bolts (16) to remove the clips. Remove the wire harness and the heater hoses from tube assembly (17).


    Illustration 11g00489689

  12. Place identification marks at the locations of hoses (98) and (99) prior to removal for installation purposes. Turn two valve assemblies (21) and (22) to the OFF position. Loosen two hose clamps (20) and (23) to disconnect two hoses (18) and (19).


    Illustration 12g00489723

  13. Install Tooling (B) on tube assembly (17). Attach a suitable lifting device to Tooling (B). Attach the lifting device to a suitable hoist, as shown.


    Illustration 13g00489786
    For Tooling (C)

  14. Position Tooling (C) under the front frame assembly. Tooling (C) will ease the removal process for tube assembly (17). Do not remove Tooling (C).


    Illustration 14g06381131
    For Tooling (C1)

  15. Position Tooling (C1) under the front frame assembly. Tooling (C1) will ease the removal process for tube assembly (17). Do not remove Tooling (C1). Refer to Tool Operating Manual, NEHS1334, "Lift Stands (150 Ton)" for more information on Tooling (C1).


    NOTICE

    Do not raise the machine off the floor. The jack supports the frame from stress when the tube assembly is removed.




    Illustration 15g00489730

  16. Remove four bolts (24) and the washers from each end of the tube assembly (17). Record the number of shims (25) on each end of tube assembly (17) for installation. Remove tube assembly (17) from the frame assembly. The weight of tube assembly (17) is 80 kg (175 lb).


    Illustration 16g00489875

  17. Disconnect wiring harness (26) at the electrical connection.

  18. Repeat Step 17 for the remaining side.


    Illustration 17g00489914

  19. Loosen two clamp assemblies (27). Remove two elbows and tube assembly (28) as a unit.


    Illustration 18g00489917

  20. Remove two clamp assemblies (30) and remove two elbows (31).


    Illustration 19g00489942

  21. Remove four bolts (32) and the washers and remove exhaust elbow (31) from the frame assembly.


    Illustration 20g00489948

  22. Disconnect hose assembly (34) from air starter (33).


    Illustration 21g00490107

  23. Disconnect hose assembly (35) from air starter (33).


    Illustration 22g00490123

    Note: The engine can be removed by placing the air compressor aside. Do not disconnect the refrigerant hose assemblies from the refrigerant compressor. The air conditioning system must be purged and evacuated before the refrigerant hose assemblies are removed. If the refrigerant compressor must be removed from the machine, refer to Disassembly and Assembly, "Refrigerant Compressor - Remove" for the correct procedure.

  24. Disconnect 3 wire harnesses (36), (38), and (40) that are on refrigerant compressor (39). Loosen nut (37) from the rod.


    Illustration 23g00490138

  25. Loosen two bolts (41) and (42) to remove the V-belt (43).


    Illustration 24g00490171


    Illustration 25g00490203

  26. Remove mounting bolts (44) and (45) from refrigerant compressor (39) and position refrigerant compressor (39) out of the way.


    Illustration 26g00490282

  27. Remove bolt (46) to remove clip (47) from hose assembly (48) for the hydraulic system.


    Illustration 27g00490301

  28. Remove bolt (49), the washer, and the nut to remove the clip that is on the hose assembly (50) for the braking system.


    Illustration 28g00490278

  29. Remove hose assembly (51) from oil cooler (52).


    Illustration 29g00490221

  30. Remove hose assembly (53) from torque converter housing assembly (54).


    Illustration 30g00490306

  31. Remove three hose assemblies (55), (56), and (57) from torque converter and brake release gear pump (58).


    Illustration 31g00490344

  32. Remove bolt (59), the washer, and the clip from torque converter and brake release gear pump (58).


    Illustration 32g00490353

  33. Disconnect two hose assemblies (60), and (61) from torque converter and brake release gear pump (58).


    Illustration 33g00490373

  34. Disconnect two hose assembly (62) and (64) from torque converter outlet relief valve (63).


    Illustration 34g00490422

  35. Remove bolt (66), the washer, and the clip from the rear of torque converter housing assembly (54).


    Illustration 35g00490611

  36. Disconnect tube assembly (68) from the hose assembly. Remove two bolts (67), the washers, the nuts, and clip (69) to separate tube assembly (68) from the bracket.


    Illustration 36g00490681

  37. Remove tube assembly (70) from the torque converter filter.


    Illustration 37g00490685

  38. Remove bolt (71), the washer, and the clip from hydraulic oil cooler assembly (72).


    Illustration 38g00490691

  39. Remove hose assembly (73) from oil cooler (74).


    Illustration 39g00490698

  40. Disconnect hose assembly (75) from the outlet side of torque converter housing assembly (54). Disconnect hose assembly (76) from the inlet side of torque converter housing assembly (54).


    Illustration 40g00490774

  41. Remove hose assembly (78) from torque converter housing assembly (54). Disconnect four hose assemblies (77), (79), (81), and (82) from torque converter lockup clutch valve (80).


    Illustration 41g00490788

  42. Disconnect two wire harnesses (83) and (84) at the electrical connections.


    Illustration 42g00490820

  43. Remove hose assembly (78) from tee fitting on pump drive (85).


    Illustration 43g00490840

  44. Remove six bolts (86) to remove two guard assemblies (87) and (88).


    Illustration 44g00490925

  45. Remove four bolts (89) from spider and bearing assembly (90) and disconnect auxiliary drive shaft (91). Support auxiliary drive shaft (91) with wire. Discard bolts (88) now.


    Illustration 45g00490944

  46. Remove five bolts (93) to remove guard (92).


    Illustration 46g00490959

  47. Position a suitable lifting device around drive shaft (27). Secure the lifting sling to a hoist. Remove four bolts (95) and disconnect the drive shaft (93) from torque converter housing assembly (54). Slide drive shaft (94) toward the rear of the truck. Discard bolts (95) now. The weight of main drive shaft (94) is 138 kg (305 lb).


    Illustration 47g00490968

  48. Use a suitable lifting sling to support ladder assembly (96), as shown. Attach the lifting sling to a hoist. Remove eight bolts (97) and the washers and remove ladder assembly (96). The weight of ladder assembly (96) is 22 kg (49 lb).


    Illustration 48g00491081

  49. Disconnect tube assembly (98) from the rear of the engine. Disconnect wire harness (99) at the electrical connection.


    Illustration 49g00491088

  50. Disconnect hose assembly (100) for the coolant drain from the rear of the engine.


    Illustration 50g00491098

  51. Disconnect hose assembly (102) from oil cooler (101).

  52. Repeat Step 51 for the remaining end of the hose assembly.


    Illustration 51g00491185

  53. Loosen four hose clamps (103). Separate two hoses (104) and (105) from transmission oil cooler (101).


    Illustration 52g00491247

  54. Disconnect cable assembly (106) from prelube switch (109). Remove two bolts (108), the washers and the clips to separate cable assembly (106) from front support assembly (107).


    Illustration 53g00491283

  55. Disconnect cable assembly (112) from prelube pump motor (110). Remove bolt (111) and the washer to remove the clip from front support assembly (107).


    Illustration 54g00491290

  56. Remove bolt (113), the washer, and the clip from front support assembly (107). Disconnect wire harness (114) at the electrical connection.


    Illustration 55g00491242

  57. Attach a suitable lifting device to the front and the rear lifting eyes (115). Attach the lifting device to a suitable hoist.


    Illustration 56g00491246

  58. Remove four bolts (117), the washers, and the nuts from cap (116) on the right rear frame support.

  59. Repeat Step 58 for the left rear frame support.


    Illustration 57g00491293

  60. Remove bolt (118), the washer, and the nut. Remove plate (119) and mount assembly (120).

  61. Repeat Step 60 for the right side.

  62. Slowly remove the engine and the torque converter from the truck. Visually inspect the engine for any hoses, electrical connections, or components that need to be disconnected or removed before removing the engine and torque converter assembly completely. Carefully remove the engine. The weight of the engine and torque converter assembly is 8278 kg (18250 lb).

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