C175-16 Locomotive Engine Caterpillar


Speed Control - Test

Usage:

C175-16 3B9
Use this procedure to troubleshoot a problem with the throttle position sensor. Also, use this procedure if one of the following diagnostic codes is active or easily repeated.

Table 1
J1939 Code and Description  CDL Code and Description  Comments 
28-3
Accelerator Pedal Position 3 : Voltage Above Normal 
774-3
Secondary Throttle Position Sensor : Voltage Above Normal 
The Electronic Control Module (ECM) detects signal voltage that is not in the acceptable range.
The ECM flags the throttle position as invalid data and a default value is used. The engine speed is limited to high idle.
The code is logged. 
28-4
Accelerator Pedal Position 3 : Voltage Below Normal 
774-4
Secondary Throttle Position Sensor : Voltage Below Normal 
The ECM detects signal voltage that is not in the acceptable range.
The ECM flags the throttle position as invalid data and a default value is used. The engine speed is limited to high idle.
The code is logged. 
29-3
Accelerator Pedal Position 2 : Voltage Above Normal 
774-3
Secondary Throttle Position Sensor : Voltage Above Normal 
The ECM detects signal voltage that is not in the acceptable range.
The ECM flags the throttle position as invalid data and a default value is used. The engine speed is limited to high idle.
The code is logged. 
29-4
Accelerator Pedal Position 2 : Voltage Below Normal 
774-4
Secondary Throttle Position Sensor : Voltage Below Normal 
The ECM detects signal voltage that is not in the acceptable range.
The ECM flags the throttle position as invalid data and a default value is used. The engine speed is limited to high idle.
The code is logged. 
29-8
Accelerator Pedal Position 2 : Abnormal Frequency, Pulse Width, or Period 
774-8
Secondary Throttle Position Sensor : Abnormal Frequency, Pulse Width, or Period 
The Pulse Width Modulated (PWM) signal from the sensor to the ECM is not correct.
The code is logged. 
91-3
Accelerator Pedal Position 1 : Voltage Above Normal 
91-3
Throttle Position Sensor : Voltage Above Normal 
The ECM detects signal voltage that is not in the acceptable range.
The ECM flags the throttle position as invalid data and a default value is used. The engine speed is limited to high idle.
The code is logged. 
91-4
Accelerator Pedal Position 1 : Voltage Below Normal 
91-4
Throttle Position Sensor : Voltage Below Normal 
The ECM detects signal voltage that is not in the acceptable range.
The ECM flags the throttle position as invalid data and a default value is used. The engine speed is limited to high idle.
The code is logged. 
91-8
Accelerator Pedal Position 1 : Abnormal Frequency, Pulse Width, or Period 
91-8
Throttle Position Sensor : Abnormal Frequency, Pulse Width, or Period 
The PWM signal from the sensor to the ECM is not correct.
The code is logged. 
974-5
Remote Accelerator Pedal Position : Current Below Normal 
1923-5
Remote Throttle Position Sensor : Current Below Normal 
The ECM detects signal voltage that is not in the acceptable range.
The ECM flags the throttle position as invalid data and a default value is used. The engine speed is limited to high idle.
The code is logged. 
974-6
Remote Accelerator Pedal Position : Current Above Normal 
1923-6
Remote Throttle Position Sensor : Current Above Normal 
The ECM detects signal voltage that is not in the acceptable range.
The ECM flags the throttle position as invalid data and a default value is used. The engine speed is limited to high idle.
The code is logged. 

Note: Performing steps within this procedure requires the use of a multimeter capable of measuring a PWM duty cycle and frequency. Refer to Table 2 for the tools recommended for the procedure.

Table 2
Recommended Tools 
146-4080 Digital Multimeter Gp 
7X-1710 Multimeter Probe 
326-4904 Adapter Cable As 

Table 3
Troubleshooting Test Steps  Values  Results 

1. Check for Codes

A. Connect Cat® Electronic Technician (ET) to the service tool connector.

B. Determine if a code is active or logged.
 

Codes
 

Result: A 28-3, 974-5, or 1923-5 code is active or logged.

Proceed to Test Step 4.

Result: A 28-4, 974-6, or 1923-6 code is active or logged.

Proceed to Test Step 5.

Result: A 29 or 91 code is active or logged.

Proceed to Test Step 2.
 

2. Check the Signal Frequency and the Duty Cycle at the Sensor

A. Remove electrical power from the engine.

B. Remove the wire from terminal location C (Throttle position) on the wiring harness side of the connector for the throttle position sensor.

C. Install a 326-4904 Adapter Cable As (3-PIN BREAKOUT) at the connector for the throttle position sensor.

D. Connect the connector for the throttle position sensor.

E. Apply electrical power to the engine.

F. Measure the frequency and the duty cycle at the 326-4904 Adapter Cable As (3-PIN BREAKOUT) between the following terminals:

- B (Digital return) and C (Throttle position)

G. Operate the throttle pedal while making the measurements.

H. Remove electrical power from the engine.

J. Remove the breakout harness.

K. Restore the wiring harness connector to the original configuration.
 

Frequency

Duty cycle 

Result: The ECM detects an incorrect frequency on the throttle signal or an incorrect duty cycle on the throttle signal. The frequency is below 150 Hz or the frequency is above 1000 Hz. The duty cycle is less than 5 percent or the duty cycle is greater than 95 percent.

Proceed to Test Step 3.

Result: The frequency and the duty cycle are within specifications for the entire range of the pedal.

Repair: Repair or replace the wiring harness.

If the problem is not resolved, proceed to Test Step 3.
 

3. Check the Supply Voltage to the Sensor

A. Remove electrical power from the engine.

B. Disconnect the wiring harness connector for the throttle position sensor.

C. Measure the voltage across the following wiring harness connector terminals:

- Terminal A (8 V supply) and Terminal B (Digital return)
 

7.5 VDC
 

Result: The supply voltage is above 7.5 VDC at the sensor connector.

Repair: The wiring is OK. Replace the sensor.

Verify that the repair eliminated the problem.

Result: The supply voltage is not above 7.5 VDC at the sensor connector.

The supply voltage is not reaching the speed control.

Repair: Repair or replace the wiring harness.

Verify that the repair eliminated the problem.
 

4. Create a Short at the Throttle Connector

A. Remove electrical power from the engine.

B. Install a jumper wire between the appropriate signal and return wire at the sensor connector to create a short.

- Signal terminal and Return terminal

C. Connect Cat ET.

D. Use Cat ET to monitor the following codes:

- -4 code

E. Remove electrical power from the engine.
 

Create a Short
 

Result: A -4 or -6 code becomes active.

Repair: The wiring is OK. Replace the failed throttle.

Verify that the repair eliminated the problem.

Result: A -4 or -6 code does not become active.

Proceed to Test Step 5.
 

5. Create an Open at the Throttle Connector

A. Remove electrical power from the engine.

B. Disconnect the appropriate throttle sensor connector.

C. Connect Cat ET.

D. Use Cat ET to monitor the following codes:

- -3 code

E. Remove electrical power from the engine.
 

Create an Open
 

Result: A -3 or -5 code becomes active.

Repair: The wiring is OK. Replace the failed throttle.

Verify that the repair eliminated the problem.

Result: A -3 or -5 code does not become active.

Proceed to Test Step 6.
 

6. Check the Supply Voltage to the Sensor

A. Remove electrical power from the engine.

B. Disconnect the wiring harness connector for the throttle position sensor.

C. Apply electrical power to the engine.

D. Measure the voltage across the appropriate connector terminals.

Note: Refer to the correct wiring schematic for sensor supply information. Schematic may differ from engine to engine.

E. Connect the sensor
 

5 VDC
 

Result: The supply voltage is correct.

Proceed to Test Step 7.

Result: The supply voltage is not correct.

Repair: There is a short in the harness. Repair or replace the wiring harness.

Verify that the repair eliminated the problem.
 

7. Perform the Wiggle Test

Carefully following this procedure is the best way to identify the root cause of an intermittent problem.

A. Connect Cat ET.

B. Use CAT ET to perform the following test:

- "Wiggle Test"

C. Slowly wiggle the wiring and the connectors between the P2 connector and the sensor. Slowly wiggle the wiring and the connectors between the P1 connector and the sensor. Pay particular attention to the wiring near each connector. Be sure to wiggle all of the wiring.

D. As you wiggle the wiring look for the following problems:

- Loose connectors or damaged connectors
- Moisture on the connectors or the wiring
- Damage that is caused by excessive heat
- Damage that is caused by chafing
- Improper routing of wiring
- Damaged insulation
 

Test
 

Result: The wiring failed the Wiggle Test.

Repair: There is a problem with the wiring harness. Repair or replace the wiring harness.

Verify that the repair eliminated the problem.

Result: The wiring passed the Wiggle Test.

Repair: The problem may be intermittent. Inspect the wiring harness. Refer to Troubleshooting, "Electrical Connectors - Inspect" for additional information.

If the wiring looks OK perform the following procedure:

1. Remove electrical power from the engine.

2. Disconnect the connectors. Carefully inspect the terminals for proper installation. Make sure that each terminal is clean and dry.

3. Insert a pin into each socket. Verify that each socket grips the pin firmly. Repair any problems.

4. Connect all connectors.

5. Verify that the repair eliminated the problem.
 

If the procedure did not correct the issue, contact your Cat dealer Technical Communicator (TC). For further assistance, your TC can confer with the Dealer Solutions Network (DSN).

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