785G Off-Highway Truck Systems Caterpillar


Proportioning Solenoid (Hoist) - Test

Usage:

785G RTL

Introduction

This procedure measures the operating values of the proportioning solenoids for the hoist control value.

Required Tools

Table 1
Required Tools 
Part Number  Description  Required Amount 
146-4080  Digital Multimeter Group 
132-7842  Test Harness 

Test Preparation

  1. Use Cat Electronic Technician (Cat ET) to determine if there are any active diagnostics in the Chassis ECM for any of the following parameters:

    • Hoistraise solenoid current

    • Hoist lower solenoid current

    • Hoist lever position sensor

    • Hoist lever duty cycle


    Illustration 1g06193775
    Hoist Proportioning solenoids are at the far right and far left of the hoist control valve.

  2. Install multimeters in series with each of the hoist proportioning solenoids.

Test Procedure



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  1. Monitor status parameters using Cat® ET.

    1. Use Cat® Electronic Technician (Cat® ET) to monitor the following four status parameters in the Chassis Electronic Control Module (Chassis ECM):

      • Hoistraise solenoid current

      • Hoist lower solenoid current

      • Hoist lever position sensor

      • Hoist lever duty cycle

      Note: The Caterpillar Monitoring System can also be used to monitor the hoist raise solenoid current and the hoist lower solenoid current.

    Note: The tests can be ran with greater safety with the engine in the OFF position and a disabled safety Hold feature.

  2. Disable the safety HOLD feature with the following procedure:

    1. Raise the body, install the safety pins, and STOP the engine.

    2. Turn the key start switch to the ON position.

    3. Move the hoist lever to the RAISE position for 15 seconds. Move the hoist lever to the HOLD position. Now when the hoist lever is moved to the various positions, the hoist output will change.

  3. Take readings for the HOLD position.

    1. Move the hoist control lever to the HOLD position.

    2. Record the readings for both status parameters that are displayed in Cat ET.

    3. Record the readings that are displayed on both multimeters.

    4. Record the readings that are displayed for the hoist lever duty cycle.

  4. Take readings for the RAISE position.

    1. Move the hoist control lever to the RAISE position.

    2. Record the readings for both status parameters that are displayed in Cat ET.

    3. Record the readings that are displayed on both multimeters.

    4. Record the readings that are displayed for the hoist lever duty cycle.

  5. Take readings for the LOWER position.

    1. Move the hoist control lever to the LOWER position.

    2. Record the readings for both status parameters that are displayed in Cat ET.

    3. Record the readings that are displayed on both multimeters.

  6. Record the readings that are displayed for the hoist lever duty cycle.

  7. Take readings for the FLOAT position.

    1. Move the hoist control lever to the FLOAT position.

    2. Record the readings for both status parameters that are displayed in Cat ET.

    3. Record the readings that are displayed on both multimeters.

  8. Record the readings that are displayed for the hoist lever duty cycle.

  9. Disconnect the tools that were used in the above procedure.

    1. Disconnect both multimeters.

    2. Disconnect Cat® Electronic Technician (Cat® ET)

  10. Evaluate the readings that were taken in the above steps. Compare the recorded values with the values in Table 2.

    1. Calculate target values for table 2. Identify the formulas that are shown in the footnotes of table 2. Use these formulas and the appropriate readings from ET to obtain the calculated target values for table 2.

  11. For each position of the hoist control lever, compare the recorded readings from the multimeters to the values for table 2.

Table 2
Hoist Control Lever  Duty Cycle  Current to
Solenoid (1)
 
Current to
Solenoid (2)
 
HOLD  55 to 71%  0.0 to 0.1 amp  0.0 to 0.1 amp 
RAISE  80 to 96%  0.0 to 0.1 amp  Calculated target value(1)
± 0.2 amp 
LOWER  1 to 18%  Calculated target value(2)
± 0.2 amp 
0.0 to 0.1 amp 
FLOAT  24 to 48%  Calculated target value(2)
± 0.2 amp 
0.0 to 0.1 amp 
(1) The formula for calculating this target value is : (Hoist Raise Solenoid Current ÷100)×(2.0) amp. The Hoist Raise Solenoid Current is expressed as a percentage. This value is obtained by using Electronic Technician.
(2) The formula for calculating this target value is : (Hoist Lower Solenoid Current ÷100)×(2.0) amp. The Hoist Lower Solenoid Current is expressed as a percentage. This value is obtained by using Electronic Technician.

Adjustment Procedure

Problem: The values do not match the table.

Probable Cause

  • The Chassis ECM is not sending the correct signal to the hoist proportioning solenoids. Cat® ET can be used to view the output from the Chassis ECM.

  • The hoist proportioning solenoid or the wiring from the Chassis ECM has failed.

  • The hoist control position sensor is not sending the correct signal to the Chassis Electronic Control Module. Use Cat® Electronic Technician (Cat® ET) to view the input signal to the Chassis.

Troubleshoot the solenoid valves for component failure. Check the connections of the circuit for open or shorted circuit issues.

After completing the electrical circuit checks, run this procedure again to confirm that the solenoids are functioning correctly.

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